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 New postPosted: 06 Mar 2010, 11:33   

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Toshido I believe the consensus is that if someone can physically work they should not be making excuses for not working. Ones first obligation when a family is involved is to work to earn a living. Get a care giver to take care of your kids and get out and work rather than using your kids as a excuse not to work.

Because you are dealing with LLs you will not get much sympathy as most of us have worked extremely hard to get where we are by having full time jobs, families as well as running our own businesses for a long time through very tough times.
Most of us probably feel you are playing the sympathy card and unfortunately for you most in our business are very short on sympathy.

Your story regarding landlords, family etc. has a distinct pattern we have all seen many times. Control your life don't let your life control you.

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 New postPosted: 06 Mar 2010, 18:12   
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You want welfare? Simple, you work in a clean up other program for your money.

You are on disability? You can type, so we will put you in a program that involves government administration.

And I want to see receipts on a monthly basis. That is how the system should run.

McGuinty's already planning on selling of the OLG, the LCBO, Hydro ONe.

After that, what is there left to sell?

T.

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 New postPosted: 06 Mar 2010, 22:49   
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Toshido wrote:
Hawk I miss work, I simply can't right now.

Hard work is also not new to me or frightening. When was the last time you did ~250 hours in a two week period? Or gone two months working hard physical labour from sun up to sundown (October in Ottawa) with only two weekends off in those two months?

I have done those things and willing to do them again. I am not working now because I can't, simple as that. ODSP is needed for some people and I am in a case like that. My wife can not care for the children and herself for the length of time needed for me to work full time. So for me to work I lose my children, that ain't ever gonna happen.

Would you be willing to sacrifice your children to foster care for the privilege of working? I am not.

I do understand where you are coming from though. Near the end of a 16 hour day at a metal lathe with the lathe behind me throwing red hot little pieces of metal down the back of my coveralls I was really hating those that sat on their behinds all day and collected a check.
Now on the other end I miss the work but understand the need for social assistance. Something that you obviously do not and likely never will.

I understand your anger and fear. The hot metal lathe would bring nightmares to anyone...with a soul.

I would like to counsel you. You, your family, me. In a peaceful setting of your choice. You are underestimating yourself. You are devalueing what you CAN and WILL contribute.

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 New postPosted: 06 Mar 2010, 23:12   
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TOttawa wrote:
You want welfare? Simple, you work in a clean up other program for your money.

You are on disability? You can type, so we will put you in a program that involves government administration.

And I want to see receipts on a monthly basis. That is how the system should run.

McGuinty's already planning on selling of the OLG, the LCBO, Hydro ONe.

After that, what is there left to sell?

T.


How about selling the LTB?
Any Takers?, I would give it to my 12 year old niece to run, she has learned what is right and wrong

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 New postPosted: 06 Mar 2010, 23:14   
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Toshido-san, why choose that name? It suggests the desire for an alternate identity, perhaps in the world of anime?

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Rae wrote:
Toshido-san, why choose that name? It suggests the desire for an alternate identity, perhaps in the world of anime?


Close, except the Anime.

Was big into roleplaying games in high school Toshido was the name of a character. Used it online ever since.

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Huh? Why the J-lust?

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 New postPosted: 08 Mar 2010, 09:10   

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Hawk wrote:
Huh? Why the J-lust?


Why anime? Japan has so much more to offer...


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 New postPosted: 09 Mar 2010, 00:54   

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I don't like his chances of anything more than anime.

MOD EDIT: Use your imagination.

(It's all in a spirit of fun!)


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 New postPosted: 09 Mar 2010, 09:12   

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I don't like his chances of anything more than anime.


(It's all in a spirit of fun!)


Remembering my 6 years in the land of the rising sun this was foremost on my mind followed very closely by some of the best food in the world! ;)


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 New postPosted: 09 Mar 2010, 17:27   
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Your travels mean you have a different perspective than most. What do you see Ontario as, in a broad sense. Describe Ontario 2010.


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 New postPosted: 10 Mar 2010, 00:25   

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A great place to study ancient fashions.

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 New postPosted: 12 Mar 2010, 15:42   
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Toshido wrote:
Rae wrote:
Toshido-san, why choose that name? It suggests the desire for an alternate identity, perhaps in the world of anime?


Close, except the Anime.

Was big into roleplaying games in high school Toshido was the name of a character. Used it online ever since.

Aha! The world of fantasy and role play. In your case you have used the name "Toshido." The mysterious Orient. Them. Far away. The "Other."

You need to get some counselling because role-playing into the world of the "other" is simply not healthy. You must be you, without shame.

With proper counselling you could still re-ignite your own sense of self. It would be a good step in getting you off Assistance as well.

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Or maybe he just likes playing roleplaying games like D & D. :roll:

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 New postPosted: 13 Mar 2010, 14:25   

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You need to get some counselling because role-playing into the world of the "other" is simply not healthy. You must be you, without shame.


The rest of us were saying more along the lies of a job and that seems to have soured him on this lot. :|


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 New postPosted: 13 Mar 2010, 14:56   
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Jobs. If he doesn't want one, at least go play video games or Pachinko all day and be supported by mum and dad rather than the state.


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 New postPosted: 13 Mar 2010, 15:12   

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Jobs. If he doesn't want one, at least go play video games or Pachinko all day and be supported by mum and dad rather than the state.

Well that's it "want" to work seems to be lacking in so many people these days. Especially here in Niagara. This is why our downtowns are shabby and our property taxes so high. The economy is weaker too since our image is unsophisticated and precious public resources are wasted on layabouts...


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 New postPosted: 14 Mar 2010, 22:26   

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Can't help myself. A quick glance at the Job Bank reveals a wide range of jobs of wide skill levels available in an underdeveloped economy with lots of bodies to fill these positions..

http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/res_eng.aspx?CommGrouping=GON010&OfferpPage=50&Student=No&PageNum=1

Of course some people "can't work now" while they expect us to feed them. :|


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 New postPosted: 15 Mar 2010, 10:22   
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And of course others invest in their own business and work hard to build that business. As an added bonus a home based business, or two, allows me to be around my kids and help the wife.

Sorry if that makes you boys jealous though.

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 New postPosted: 15 Mar 2010, 10:34   
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Rae wrote:
Aha! The world of fantasy and role play. In your case you have used the name "Toshido." The mysterious Orient. Them. Far away. The "Other."

You need to get some counselling because role-playing into the world of the "other" is simply not healthy. You must be you, without shame.

With proper counselling you could still re-ignite your own sense of self. It would be a good step in getting you off Assistance as well.



Rae gotta admit the pseudo psycho babble of yours is somewhat humorous.

Role playing is a game, that's it, noting more. No hiding from the real world. In fact it can help with lots of real world skills. Mathematics, problem solving, reading and comprehension. Just to name a few. it is also a social activity so it promotes interaction with other real people, as opposed to video games which promote seclusion.

I love who I am and I am improving constantly. Both personally with self esteem, self respect, family relations. Also professionally learning new skills, finding new sources of raw materials and so on.

The only time I will ever be off assistance is after my wife passes away, hopefully a long time away. Plans are in motion to provide for my family when that happens, back up plans are in place to deal with it if it happens to soon as well.

The only benefit I am seeing from having the help of social assistance is that i can put more effort into my own businesses and my family. Without the assistance I would have to have a third and possibly fourth job to support as at the moment, but done that before a well and it was simply too draining to effectively develop my own businesses.

So, by all means keep sprouting the hippy pseudo psycho babble to entertain us though. But if you feel even in the leat bit qualified to give that type of advice you may benefit from following your advice with the counselling.

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